Revisiting bathrooms w/ @chasestrangio & @AaronKappel (8/13/16) — #KatieSpeakShow Ep79 03/11/2017

In brief: CN: suicide; self-harm; violence against trans people.

These interviews originally aired on 8/13/2016.

I am so excited about this show! I’ve been meaning to have Chase Strangio AND Aaron Kappel on and when they both crossed my timeline this week, it was perfect timing! Chase brilliantly tackles the lack of logic in whose privacy the law should be protecting (HB2/“bathroom bills”) and the systemic violence perpetrated against trans people by our “justice” system. Then, Aaron and I chat a few of my favorite articles of theirs, on GENDR — the new mobile app/community — and the real trauma of the bathroom bills on trans, non-binary, and gender non-conforming folks. We regret that you had to listen to us talk, rather than witnessing an entire conversation of Jack and Karen gifs; they are, however, available in the Twitterverse.

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Enhanced audio: Revisiting bathrooms w/ @chasestrangio & @AaronKappel (8/13/16) — #KatieSpeakShow Ep79 03/11/2017

Links to on-air references:

My take…

“Trump revokes Obama guidelines on transgender bathrooms” via Reuters

Audre Lorde self-care quote via Know Your IX: “Dealing with Activist Burn-Out and Self-Care”


“The Fight Against North Carolina’s Anti-LGBT Law Heads to Court” by Chase Strangio at ACLU

“Lambda Legal and ACLU Ask Court to Block Enforcement of North Carolina’s Anti-Transgender Law” via Lambda Legal

“The Issue of Trans Student Rights Inches Closer to the Supreme Court” by Jessica Mason Pieklo at Rewire

“Chase Strangio on the ACLU’s Fight to Overturn North Carolina’s Anti-LGBT Law HB 2” on Democracy Now!

“In Court Over North Carolina’s Anti-Trans HB 2” by Chase Strangio at Medium

“Did the Supreme Court Really Just Issue an Emergency Order to Stop a 17-Year-Old Transgender Boy From Using the Boys Bathroom at School?” via ACLU

Chase on Twitter re: “courtesy” of Breyer

“Breyer Brings Back Courtesy—at a Cost” at The Atlantic

“Urgent: Chelsea Manning is being charged for her own suicide attempt, faces indefinite solitary confinement” via

Aaron at The Establishment:

“‘Is It Safe Now?’ The Trauma Of Bathroom Laws”

“Why I’m Skeptical About The New GENDR App For The Trans Community”

“Let Trans People Speak For Themselves”

Follow my guests…

Chase Stranglio: Twitter; ACLU bioe

Aaron Kappel: Twitter; website

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