Laughing at Ourselves Will Save Us! w/@anne_theriault & @joshgondelman — #KatieSpeakShow Ep17 01/02/2016

In brief: The amazing Anne Thériault summarizes all seven Star Wars movies (SPOILER ALERT) from Princess Leia’s perspective which is reason enough to listen because it’s amazing. We also talk about how women with mental illness are perceived in culture and media/movies/music. The delightful Josh Gondelman joins me to talk his outstanding book “You Blew It” and how being an adult human is awkward and why laughing at ourselves will save us.

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Enhanced audio: Laughing at Ourselves Will Save Us! w/@anne_theriault & @joshgondelman — #KatieSpeakShow Ep17 01/02/2016


Honestly, all you need is in the brief at the top. I do a little talking before the interview with Anne, but you absolutely tuned in (whether you realized it or not) to hear the brilliant, charming, funny, lovely, endearing friends who were kind enough to spare part of the busiest time of year with me and with you. If this is the first time you’re meeting Anne and Josh, you’re welcome. They are easily two of my favorite people to follow and talk to on Twitter and off.


Quotes of the Show by Anne Thériault: “Because of stigma surrounding mental illness, it does kind of give them this cultural permission of ‘Oh, of course, she’s too much to handle; if you can’t handle it it’s not your fault. She was doomed from the start anyway.’”

“Once I was really thinking about it, there’s so much media about how men feel about mentally ill women.”

“There’s something very toxic about how we view mental illness & how we devalue people with mental illnesses that gives someone permission to kind of quit on them or leave when they’re at their worst.”

Links to on-air references:

Audre Lorde self-care quote via Know Your IX: “Dealing with Activist Burn-Out and Self-Care”


“Sexy Tragic Muse: Mental Illness & The Male Gaze”

“Anxiety and Never-Not”

“The True Story of Kudzu, the Vine That Never Truly Ate the South”

“Carrie Fisher Flawlessly Shuts Down People Saying She Hasn’t Aged Well”

“How To Say Hell No To “New Year, New You!” Season”

“How to Get Out of Any Party Conversation”

Follow/support my guests…

Anne Thériault: on Twitter & on Patreon

Josh Gondelman: on Twitter & get the book

Blog Extras:

Normandie’s new video for “Art of Revenge”!

Quoted on the show:

The Katie Speak Show airs on Netroots Radio Saturdays at 7pmEST and Mondays at 6pmEST. Subscribe to the podcast for free at iTunes.

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All original music by “sparkling, glittery 60’s piano diva” Normandie Wilson

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