That Time I Ranted About #BoycottIndiana & Caring About All People

In brief: I hit my red state shaming breaking point this week with “progressives” telling Hoosiers variations on “you got what you deserved because voting.” Elon James White from This Week in Blackness caught the beginning of my rant, jumped in, and then brought it to TWiB Prime the next day.

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I got a little upset on Tuesday. If you’ve been around my platform for more than a minute, you know I don’t take kindly to red state shaming and I will demand you return your “progressive” and/or “liberal” card if you abandon people who “vote wrong” because they “got what they deserved.” I care about everybody. (Please see my “ICYMI I love Texans and All the People in All the Places” post from 2013.) I’m still waiting to hear what so-called progressives think should be done with the folks who voted wrong, couldn’t vote, etc. Are we going to toss them out into the street? Should they be hungry, homeless, sick? How very progressive of you.

I storified my Tuesday rant, which the lovely folks at This Week in Blackness (TWiB) jumped in on and then discussed the next day on TWiB Prime:

“Listen to the affected people: why #BoycottIndiana is mean.”

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9 replies

  1. Again, this boycott changed this law. Please allow that actual fact into your brain.

    And allow into your brain the fact that you tried to keep that from happening.

    You stood up for a bigoted majority, and accuse a member of the group hurt by that bigotry of failing to understand.

    No.

    You do not understand how hateful you have been and continue to be.

    You do not understand how gay people should fight for our rights better than we do.

    If you had any actual respect for us, you would apologize.

    But you are an actual mean person.

    • I’m sorry you’re hurt by my call for people to be empathetic and listen more closely. I have to weigh the gratitude and appreciation from LGBTQ people and others (as this law has rather sweeping potential and continues to discriminate on religious grounds for other groups) — gratitude that has been rather overwhelming — against one voice.
      Best,
      Katie

      • I am hurt by your insistence that my rights are not worth fighting for.

        You are showing no empathy and refusing to listen– but why bother when you have friends who will tell you you are right, no matter what?

        You are acting the way bigots act.

        • My insistence that you are one voice among many is not intended to silence you or disregard your rights. If I wanted to do that I simply would have ignored and not approved your comments. You are the only person to say they read my thoughts as dismissive of the LGBTQ community and also the only one to say they stood with the boycott. Out of thousands I have heard from, yours is the only one who wished I had supported the boycott. My “refusing to listen,” as you put it, is actually my listening to many.
          Best,
          Katie

  2. It is impossible for a gay person to tell the difference between a straight person who just think Gays should shut up and be quiet when other people treat us like garbage and a straight person who actually believes that gay people are garbage but is no longer allowed to say so because she is a Democrat. I wonder if you’ll ever realize that for a straight person to tell gay people that it is Unkind of us to fight for our rights is incredibly nasty. I know you think you matter and I do not. And I know that only mean people act the way you do. Never pretend again that you are friend of LGBT people. You have proven yourself to be if not bigoted at least very skeptical of the idea that we deserve to be treated as your equal.

    • I encourage you to look into how general boycotts affect marginalized people, including the LGBTQ community. Had any of the people or groups calling for the boycott been, in fact, LGBTQ groups in Indiana, I’d have supported it. There were no Hoosiers asking for this blanket punishment.

      • I ask YOU to look at the history of straight liberals telling gay people that our rights are unimportant and that we are bad people for fighting for them. We were ordered to vote for Clinton after DOMA and DADT . We were told were selfish for forcing Obama’s hand on DADT repeal. You are yelling at us in ways that liberal bigots have been yelling at us for my whole life.

        I think you could have focused on strategy without telling victims of discrimination that we are being “mean” for responding angrily to discrimination against us.

        Freedom Indiana has been very clear that the boycotts have been helpful. I think if you really cared about their opinion I would not have to tell you that.

        I ask you to look at what would have happened if people had obeyed you and let up on Indiana. The religious freedom law there would be in place, unchanged. A similar one would be in place in Arkansas. We would not see other states, including Texas, looking seriously at the consequences of anti-gay bills.

        And maybe that’s all nothing to you.

        But I would say that this was an example of a successful boycott.

        I know you think it was okay for big companies and the NCAA to express concern.

        I do not know why you think they would have expressed concern without the social media uproar.

        • I’m sorry you feel my animus was directed at the LGBTQ community. A close reading of those who weren’t supporting the boycott — the voices I was lifting up and standing with — will show that they were primarily Hoosiers from groups like Freedom Indiana and those businesses fighting the law.
          Social media uproar ≠ general boycott. If you can find a general boycott that has changed a law rather than simply injured the most vulnerable and marginalized from the past 50 years, then I’d be more than happy to read it and post it.

        • Also, “mean” was absolutely and clearly directed at the coastal/big city/straight liberals with whom you are conflating your anger about the misreading of my words. Spending any time at all reading the #BoycottIndiana thread would give you the context of who was using it and what they were saying. “Serves them right; they got what they deserved” was the overwhelming sentiment. I don’t see any other way to describe that except “mean.”

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